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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 09:11 +0100 (MET)
From: Hans de Wolf <[e-mail]>
Subject: Info-Mac #161(B) lost issue (August 14)


Info-Mac Digest             Sat, 14 Aug 93       Volume 11 : Issue 161

Today's Topics:

      [*] BP2
      [*] Deskwriter C Drivers v3.0
      [*] Dockernaut 1.1
      [*] HyperCuber
      [*] Let's try this one more time...
      [*] newton-demo-13-inch
      [*] Re: country.tabs
      [*] Re: Here is the first newton PD Program
      [*] rnMac 0.99 -- offline newsreader
      [*] SkyChart-2000.0-v1.0.2.sea.hqx
      [*] Space Madness 1.1.1 Updater
      [*] Space Madness Demo 1.1
      [*] Suppl. Gestalt Selectors List
      [*] TetrisLight-src.cpt.hqx (Part 1/2)
      [*] TetrisLight.cpt.Hqx
      [*] This Should Get it!
      (Q) Centris 660AV Board Upgrades to PowerPC?
      A4 & LaserWriter 8.0 Problem
      Aliasing the Desktop Folder (R)
      Animation with Hypercard / Hypertalk (A)
      BTX decoder (r) (2 msgs)
      Chooser - Way to bypass? (again?)
      Clarification of AutoDoubler savings
      Comm algorithm
      Copydoubler2, advantages?
      Cracking LW Pro 630
      Disk First Aid 7.2 (Q)
      Eudora - Help with Dial in ? (A) (2 msgs)
      First Word Plus (Atari) to Mac Word Processor (R)
      Fullwrite conversion - HELP
      Headers disappearing in Word 5.1
      how to secure Mac LC III's (2 msgs)
      Info-Mac Digest V11 #159
      InterSLIP
      Logging cpu use/time & Mac system accountinig revisited
      LW8 & PPD help needed
      LW 8.0 & Mathematica conflict
      Mac 512K Software
      MACINTOSH SOFTWARE UTILITY UPDATE 1.0
      MacPrefect Explanation (2 msgs)
      Mail Gateways
      Mind mapping software (R) (2 msgs)
      More Disk Space warning
      Moving Large Files MAC<->DOS
      Now Compress
      PageMaker 4.2 Book printing
      Problem with Grades
      Quirky Mac behavior
      Ready, Set, Go!
      SE has DTs. What Else to Try???
      Speech Manager (Q)
      Speech Manager Docs
      Stuffit spacesaver confuses norton disk doctor (Q)
      StyleWrite II driver won't share
      Symantec Again. Durn It.
      System 7.1- Extensions, System Enablers
      Terminal Emulators & TCP/IP
      Warning: Symbionts 2.1 may be dangerous to your System's heatlth
      Why isn't our Quadra 800 faster than our IIsi?
      Wildcard rename (R)

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 11:01:45 +0200
From: [e-mail] (Bernard Bel)
Subject: [*] BP2

BOL PROCESSOR BP2 - a short introduction

(This is the only file available from "ftp" sites.  Documentation and software
are distributed on request)


BP2 is an extension of Bol Processor BP1 which was developed by computer
scientist Bernard Bel and ethnomusicologist Jim Kippen in the early to mid-
1980s to examine improvisatory methods used by North Indian tabla drummers.
(Kippen & Bel 1992)

[The project was undertaken by the International Society for Traditional Arts
Research (ISTAR), a corporate member of the International Council for
Traditional Music, with generous help from Ford Foundation, NCPA (India) and
Leverhulme Trust (UK)]

It was felt that the formal model embedded in BP1 could be expanded to
encompass more general musical structures, and in this form could be of some
benefit as a tool for rule-based music composition.  Syntactic extensions in
BP2 include remote-context rules, context-sensitive substitutions, dynamic
rule
weight assignment, programmed grammars, etc.  (Bel & Kippen 1992)

[Archived as /info-mac/snd/util/bol-processor-bp2-intro.txt; 11K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 00:29:26 EDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] Deskwriter C Drivers v3.0

This is the Deskwriter C drivers, v 3.0.  This includes
ColorSync support for users who have System 7.0.1 or newer.
To use these drivers at all, you need System 6.0.5 or newer.
Note:  It is suggested that you have at least a 400K memory
partition for the Finder.  If you are running under System 6
you can change the partition yourself.  If you are running
System 7 the installer will automagically increase the Finder's
memory partition to 400K.

You will need 7.5 Meg (!) free on your hard disk to do "Easy
Install".  To do a Custom Install requires less.

When this file is debinhexed and expanded (using Stuffit
Expander, for instance), you should get two DiskCopy .image
files.  You will need to use DiskCopy (or DART) and two 800K
disks in order to use this software.

The usual Installer caveats apply:  Turn off all antivirus
software before installing;  preferably you should turn off
all those nasty cdevs/inits (cps/exts for Sys 7 folk) and
reboot before installing.

Darin Takemoto
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/prn/deskwriter-c-driver-30.hqx; 1123K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 22:53:26 -0500
From: "Steven F. Martin" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Dockernaut 1.1

Dockernaut 1.1 is a shareware (now only $15!) control panel/extension
for Macintoshes that are frequentely used with different sized
monitors or different docks (for Duos).  It allows you to have
different sets of preferences for applications and extensions
depending on your configuration.  When used with Startup Manager Prefs
you can have different sets of extensions get loaded at startup time.
When used with Finder Prefs, you can have different Trash Can
locations for different sized monitors, etc...

While designed for the Duo, it is useful with other Powerbooks when
you sometimes use an external monitor as your main screen.

Version 1.1 corrects a conflict with Super Boomerang, adds support for
more than two configurations and a new info screen describes the
capabilities of Duo docks.

Dockernaut requires System 7.0 and a 68020 or better Macintosh.

Comments, questions, and suggestions should be sent to Compuserve
72727,1471 or internet [e-mail].

Archivists, this file replaces Dockernaut1.0.sit.hqx

[Archived as /info-mac/cfg/dockernaut-11.hqx; 27K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 20:38:23 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: [*] HyperCuber

Hello,

  Enclosed is HyperCube, my four-dimensional cube rotation program.
  HyperCuber
displays a four-dimensional cube, and allows the user to view it from any
four-dimensional and three-dimensional angle.  This program is freeware.

  -Greg Ferrar ([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/app/hyper-cube.hqx; 189K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 09:43:22 EDT
From: [e-mail] (George T. "14K F/D" Talbot)
Subject: [*] Let's try this one more time...

This is an update to "TheBar" which raises it to version 1.2.  TheBar is a
small System 7.x application which displays a bar of icons which represent
the currently running applications.  A double-click to an icon in TheBar
will bring that application's layer to the front.

George T. Talbot | <[e-mail]>

[Archived as /info-mac/gui/the-bar-12.hqx; 27K]

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 7:37:08 PDT
From: [e-mail] (Harry Myhre)
Subject: [*] newton-demo-13-inch

non-interactive demo of what a Newton can do. Works best with 13" monitors.

[Archived as /info-mac/info/hdwr/newton-demo-nt.hqx; 668K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 09:44:33 +0200
From: "Alain FONTAINE (Post master - UCL)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Re: country.tabs

List of country codes according to ISO 3166, with short and full name in
English and in French. The fields are separated by tabs, so it should be easy
to import the data into any text processor, database or speeadsheet. Please
note that some Mac fonts do not have all the needed characters to display the
French names correctly.

This copy has been updated through registration Newsletter III-51 and is
believed to be current through at least July 1993.
                                                                /AF

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/info/internet-country-codes-iso3166.hqx; 25K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 11:12:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Robert Bruce <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Re: Here is the first newton PD Program

Mr. Assistant provides every user with useful advice when questioned. He also
pops up and offers advice when he feels like it. The program uses the
dictionary
and name database to generate personalized messages.
He also offers fortunes.

You need the connection kit or developers kit to up load the software.

                             Thanks
                             Robert Bruce

[We are deciding where to put the netwon programs we get.... I'm leaning
towards a new directory.  We'll let you know as soon as the rest of the
moderators get back from lazing about in the sun! - Gordon]

[Archived as /info-mac/app/mr-assistant-nt.hqx; 19K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:14:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Roy R Wood <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] rnMac 0.99 -- offline newsreader

Here's v0.99 of rnMac, an offline usenet newsreader designed to be
used in conjunction with UUPC and ToadNews.

There have been MANY enhancements to rnMac, most notably the ability
to use ToadNews' SUBJ headers, and the ability to create threaded
news header files in the background while the user is reading other
news.  rnMac now starts up IMMEDIATELY, rather than spending a long
time grinding away at the disk while the user twiddles his/her
thumbs.

My email address has changed, so old users should note the new
address.

Also, rnMac now puts up an annoying registration screen, and
registered users will have to mail me to get the key to make it go
away permanently (no charge, of course).

-Roy Wood ([e-mail])

[Archived as /info-mac/comm/rn-mac-099.hqx; 138K]

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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 16:03:39 EDT
From: Tim C DeBenedictis <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] SkyChart-2000.0-v1.0.2.sea.hqx

Enclosed in this mailing is version 1.0.2 of SkyChart 2000.0.  Please replace
the current SkyChart 2000.0 archive with it.

SkyChart 2000.0 is a program for calculating and displaying the appearance of
the night sky.  With it, you can find the positions of the sun, moon, stars,
and planets for any time or place.  You can view the sky as it would appear
>From another planet or even another star system, and animate the motions
of the planets and even the constellations over thousands of years.

SkyChart 2000.0 requires an FPU.  However, in this update, a version of thge
program is included that will run on any mac, with or without an FPU (although
very slowly!)  The shareware fee is $20.00.

Tim DeBenedictis
[e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/sci/sky-chart-2000-102.hqx; 825K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 20:22:48 -0700
From: "(Michael A. Kelly)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Space Madness 1.1.1 Updater

This program will update your full working version of Space Madness 1.1
and the Space Madness 1.1 Manual to version 1.1.1.  Version 1.1.1 fixes
a few minor bugs, such as the problem with Sound Manager 3.0, and adds
a few minor features.

Registered users of Space Madness *will not* be receiving this update
in the mail.  Read the enclosed file 'Read Me!' for details.

Call High Risk Ventures at [phone] for more information.

Enjoy!

Michael A. Kelly
High Risk Ventures

[Archived as /info-mac/game/com/space-madness-111-updt.hqx; 257K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 20:11:34 -0700
From: "(Michael A. Kelly)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Space Madness Demo 1.1

This is a playable demonstration version of the commercial action/arcade
game Space Madness.  Space Madness is a space shoot-em-up in the tradition
of Asteroids, similar to Lunatic Fringe but much more complex and
challenging.  Check out the review in the July issue of Inside Mac Games.
IMG gave it a rating of 4 (out of 5).

This demonstration version lets you play three levels, which correspond
roughly to levels 3, 8, and 10 in the real game.  Space Madness is
available now directly from High Risk Ventures for the special introductory
price of $35.  Call [phone] to order or for more information.

Version 1.1.1 fixes a few minor bugs, such as the problem with Sound
Manager 3.0, and adds a few minor features.

Enjoy!

Michael A. Kelly
High Risk Ventures

[Archived as /info-mac/game/com/space-madness-demo.hqx; 894K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 13:57:15 +0200
From: "Rene G.A. Ros" <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] Suppl. Gestalt Selectors List

ACI US MacWorld'92 Booth
Freeware.

Scanned color picture of the ACIUS booth at the
1992 MacWorld in San Francisco.

[Archived as /info-mac/grf/acius-booth-macworld.hqx; 181K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 12:35:26 BST
From: Hoylen Sue <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] TetrisLight-src.cpt.hqx (Part 1/2)

The following is a compact pro archive containing the Think C 5.0
sources for "Tetris Light".  This is a lightweight Tetris program
with source code freely available under the GNU General Public
License.

[Archived as /info-mac/dev/src/tetris-light-c.hqx; 117K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 12:34:53 BST
From: Hoylen Sue <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] TetrisLight.cpt.Hqx

The following is a compact pro archive containing "Tetris Light".
This is a lightweight implementation of Tetris.  It does not
require any fancy features (e.g. 256 colours) to run.  It is
released free of charge under the GNU General Public License.
The Think C 5.0 sources are available under the same conditions.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/arc/tetris-light.hqx; 49K]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 07:57:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Hollye Knox-Green <[e-mail]>
Subject: [*] This Should Get it!

Gordon...

The research file must have went South...:-)
Here 'Tis

hollye

[Archived as /info-mac/info/nms/tenet-research.hqx; 337K]

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Date: 14 Aug 1993 01:53:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joshua Hart -- A Forensic Chemist (to be) at Large!"
<[e-mail]>
Subject: (Q) Centris 660AV Board Upgrades to PowerPC?

Netters,
    Anybody Know if there are going to be Board upgrades from the Centris
    660AV
(Tempest) to the PowerPC? I was reading MacWorld, which said that a board
upgrade will be made available for the Centris 650, but it mentioned nothing
about the 660AV. I figure that if an upgrade is not available for the 660AV it
would be in my better interests, in the forethought of upgradability, to buy a
Centris 650 instead of the 660AV (although I really like the looks and
capability of the Tempest.
    Does anybody have any knowledge on the subject? I realize that just cause
MacWorld did not mention an upgrade for the 660AV does not mean it will not be
available, but I'd like to know before I buy a Centris!
    Thanks,
        Joshua

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 19:50:58 JST
From: [e-mail]
Subject: A4 & LaserWriter 8.0 Problem

Hello All,

I have a LaserWriter Pro 600 with Photograde, and recently installed
the new LaserWriter 8.0.

However, whenever I print A4 size paper (which is quite often), the
printed portion gets moved up so the first centimeter or so is
clipped off. This is with the LaserWriter driver only. When I print
using the General PPD in PageMaker (4.0J) it prints without a hitch.

I am running KanjiTalk 7.1 with WorldScript II version 7.1.1. Would
this cause any problems? Also, my cassette tray is made for letter
size paper (I print A4 from the manual feed). None of the above
gave me any problems with the previous driver, so I am certain it
is a problem with 8.0. How do I fix it?

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer me.

Scott Papenfuss        [e-mail]

P.S. I would appreciate any answers being sent to me directly, as our newsfeed
is sometimes sporadic.

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 20:48:58 +0000 (GMT)
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Aliasing the Desktop Folder (R)

There may not be a way to directly create an alias of the Desktop
Folder, but an existing alias can be modified to point to it.
ResEdit is the only tool that is needed.  Any editor capable of
modifying resources should do!

1. Create a new folder at the top level of your hard drive called
"Zesktop Folder". (no quotes)

2. Make an alias to the Zesktop Folder.  Rename the alias "Desktop
alias".  Trash the original folder.

3. From within ResEdit open (with Use Alias checked) Desktop alias.

4. Open the only resource (type alis).

5. Get Resource Info for the resource.  Change the Z to D in the
name field.

6. With the hex editor change Z to D in both occurrances of
"Zesktop" in the resource.

7. Quit and Save.

Drag the Desktop alias to your Apple Menu Items folder and
BeHierarchic will show your desktop items!


Have Fun!
 [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 22:43:20 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <[e-mail]>
Subject: Animation with Hypercard / Hypertalk (A)

>Can someone give me advice on how to learn to write animation,
i.e. moving pictures, with Hypercard. Is there some book
or text on the subject? Are there well commented sample
programs in Hypertalk for animation, which I can look at
in order to learn how it is done.

The tricks that I know are:

1: You can do flip card kind of animation where you quickly cycle through
cards in a stack.

2. You can create a font that is very very big (72 point) and then create a
text field that will hold one or two characters of this font. Then you
quickly write characters into this field. Since the characters are actually
pictures, you get animation. The first example of this is the Barbie font
stack.

3. You can create an icon, assign it to a button, and move the icon around
the screen.

4. You can rapidly switch icons in a button to get animation.

5. You can combine any or all of these techniques. For example, we did a
butterfly font and moved the field around on the screen while flipping
characters in the field so that it looked like the butterfly was flying
around the screen. If would have been trivial to also flip cards while
doing the butterfly so that the butterfly actually traversed quite a bit of
terrain.

6. Caveat: Always create your stack on the slowest Mac you imagine people
will try to run it on. If your animation looks good there, it will look
good on a faster Mac. Also, have your stack time some standard action in
ticks so that you can figure out how fast the Mac is and then slow down the
animations if the Mac is too fast. On a MacPlus you might want the
animation to run flat out as fast as possible. On a Quadra you might want
to wait a bit between each step in the animation so that it runs at a
reasonable speed.

Enjoy,
Kee Nethery
[e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 11:24:05 MET DST
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: BTX decoder (r)

Elliot Bennett <[e-mail]> asked:

> Ok, I know this has been discussed before (I even thought I HAD a
> solution, but apparently I was mistaken) but, does anyone have a BTX
> emulator (software) for the Deutshce Telekom BTX service (it's the
> expensive German version of the French MiniTel)? I thought there was one
> on SUMEX but I couldn't find it...

You might look at DEVIN, a (commercial) product which works for Swiss
Videotex and French MiniTel. You should contact the author whether it
also works for BTX, but I think it does.

Here's the address:   Peter Fink Informatik
                      Feldblumenstrasse 15
                      CH 8134 Adliswil (Switzerland)
                      phone  [phone]

He probably also has a fax number, but I don't find it.

Best regards, Christian.                 [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 11:24:05 MET DST
From: Christian F. Buser <[e-mail]>
Subject: BTX decoder (r)

Elliot Bennett <[e-mail]> asked:

> Ok, I know this has been discussed before (I even thought I HAD a
> solution, but apparently I was mistaken) but, does anyone have a BTX
> emulator (software) for the Deutshce Telekom BTX service (it's the
> expensive German version of the French MiniTel)? I thought there was one
> on SUMEX but I couldn't find it...

You might look at DEVIN, a (commercial) product which works for Swiss
Videotex and French MiniTel. You should contact the author whether it
also works for BTX, but I think it does.

Here's the address:   Peter Fink Informatik
                      Feldblumenstrasse 15
                      CH 8134 Adliswil (Switzerland)
                      phone  [phone]

He probably also has a fax number, but I don't find it.

Best regards, Christian.                 [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 15:32:44 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Monty Hampton)
Subject: Chooser - Way to bypass? (again?)

I am sure this question must have been posted before, but I don't recall
it. Does anyone know of a program (extension, init, whatever) that will
display the available printers in a pull down menu when the Chooser menu
option is selected?
Sure would like to bypass the Chooser when rerouting print jobs. I looked
at DTPrinter and it is a useful alternative, but it doesn't quite do what
I'm looking (hoping) for.

Thank you in advance for your replies. I will post summary (eventually)!

Monty

E.M. Hampton, OUHSC College of Pharmacy & OKC DVAMC
921 NE 13th Street,Oklahoma City, OK 73104 [phone]
[e-mail]

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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 09:35:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>
Subject: Clarification of AutoDoubler savings

Folks,

        I have had several folks request clarification by what I mean when
I say that my hard drive has a savings of about 30% or so as a result of
using AutoDoubler.  Note that the mechanism used is a Quantum 240.
        Below are actual captures of the "savings" report generated by
AutoDoubler.  By the way, I used the TEXT CAPTURE f-key to get this info
>From the dialog box--a pretty slick f-key.  Hunt for it, it might still be
at a site somewhere.
        At any rate, I hope the charts below clarify my statements
somewhat.
        Note that Partition ONE is my bootup partition. It has several
files that cannot be compressed, hence a savings of "only" 24%.
        Partition TWO has a savings of 36%.  Some files are excluded by
me, others, such as MicroSoft Word and FullWrite Professional refuse to be
compressed by AutoDoubler's Internal compressor.
        Considering how TRANSPARENTLY FAST AutoDoubler is and the fact
that I have gained about 20 meg of space on Partition ONE, and have gained
about 35 meg of space on Partition TWO, it is difficult to not want to use
this marvelous product.  Even with the costs of mega-HUGE mechanisms
coming down each month, AutoDoubler will still produce a cost-effective
method of gaining drive free-space.  Besides, "No matter how large your
drive is, you will always need a larger one." Even 20 megs of extra space
is a blessing.
        CHART FOLLOWS SIGNATURE...:

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PARTITION ONE

1135 files, 442 compressed
Compressed Size: 69820014 bytes, 69060K on disk
Expanded Size:   93037999 bytes, 92004K on disk
Savings: 24%, 22944K saved on disk

693 files using 20664K are not yet compressed.

(Some files may not be compressible).
This 115.0MB disk has an effective size of 145.8MB.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
PARTITION TWO

1692 files, 1350 compressed

Compressed Size: 64951333 bytes, 64794K on disk
Expanded Size:  102413827 bytes, 102176K on disk
Savings: 36%, 37382K saved on disk

342 files using 27834K are not yet compressed.

(Some files may not be compressible).
This 115.0MB disk has an effective size of 164.7MB.

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 9:32:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: [e-mail] (MY KARMA RAN OVER MY DOGMA)
Subject: Comm algorithm

Hallo:
        Well, as the title implies, I am searching for a workable comm algo.
Presently, I'm using kermit on the mac and on the DEC VMS 8800. This is a
minimum configuration which is quickly outliving its usefullness.  I lurked
around the comm dir at sumex, and was baffled.  Could someone offer their
setup?  Im looking for shareware, and for elegance.  I know there is a set-
up out there with those specs.
--Thanx
Luis

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 16:14:27 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Silverstein)
Subject: Copydoubler2, advantages?

What are the advantages of Copydoubler2 over Copydoubler1??


Thanks, mike

--
Dr. M.S. Silverstein
Materials Engineering
[e-mail] OR jli@cwru

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:48:26 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: Cracking LW Pro 630

Does anyone out there is NetLand have directions for cracking open
a LaswerWriter Pro 630 in order to install an internal hard disk?
Many thanks in advance.


                           Ken

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 22:15:40 PDT
From: [e-mail] (John Thoo)
Subject: Disk First Aid 7.2 (Q)

I understand that DFA7.2 is now available from <ftp.apple.com> as part of
Mac Util Software Update 1.0.  My question is, Is DFA7.2 for System 7.1
users only, or should System 7.0-tuned (and 7.0.1-tuned) users update DFA
also?  Thanks for your help, and sorry for being so dopey.

--John.
J. B. THOO, Math Dept, Univ of California, Davis <[e-mail]>
``My _real_ computer is a Macintosh.''

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 11:57:21 BST
From: charless <[e-mail]>
Subject: Eudora - Help with Dial in ? (A)

In info-mac, A.D'[e-mail] writes:

>Subject: Eudora - Help with Dial in ? (Q)

>I have just bought a modem for my PB (Apple Expres Modem) and want to be
>able to make dialup connections to the University from home to check my
>mail.

>I am not sure if this is possible. When I dial in I get to what is known as
>GANDALF PACX where I have to type my name and password. I then have to type
>the name of the service I want to get to as follows:

>NSS <CR>

>This gets me to the pop server (SunOS UNIX). I guess once there Eudora can
>automatically log in.

>I am not sure how to get Eudora to do all of this automatically. From the
>Eudora manual (in Appendix D) it would appear so but I can not figure out
>how to do it. (I am afraid I am not familiar with ResEdit). Can anyone
>offer any advice?

>Regards, Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester.

Okay. Let's take this from the top. I'm going to assume you know
relatively little ...

Firstly, you're trying to connect to a pop server running under SunOS.
You've got to go through a gateway to get to it.

Secondly; you've got Eudora. (Were you told that Eudora was a suitable
system by the ManUni support staff?)

Now, the important thing to bear in mind is that Eudora requires a
TCP/IP (internet protocol) network connection to its pop server (which
is the server program that sends you the mail). Establishing the
network connection is going to be a problem. You need:

*       MacTCP (TCP/IP driver for the Macintosh). Eudora requires
        this as the protocol it uses to talk to a pop server runs
        under TCP.

*       A transport mechanism to establish a TCP/IP connection to
        your pop server via the modem.

*       Lots of patience, and some help from someone who knows a
        little about setting up TCP/IP connections. (I've done it,
        and while it isn't impossible it ain't easy. I can't give
        you a simple recipe card: there's no substitute for understanding.)

I _believe_ Eudora is packaged with MacTCP 1.1 -- at least, a US
university licensed MacTCP for unlimited distribution with Eudora.
If you don't have MacTCP, get it: you need it. (Try an archie search
for it and you'll turn up any number of copies lying around the
Internet. Don't try buying it from Apple UK -- they've never heard of
it. I tried: I failed. It was a long and not very pleasant experience.)

MacTCP, when you've dropped it in your system folder and set it up,
enables you to run the internet protocol over any transport layer
you've got installed; appletalk or ethernet are the most common.  In
this instance, you want to use MacTCP over a modem, so you need a SLIP
or PPP driver.  (PPP is generally considered a better protocol than
SLIP for technical reasons, so we'll go for PPP, okay?)  SLIP and PPP
are protocols for sending TCP packets over a modem connection. They're
effectively interchangeable, from the user's point of view.

Two such drivers are available for the Mac in the public domain:
MacPPP and InterSLIP. The former is available for ftp from
sumex-aim.stanford.edu.

To set up your system:

1.      Bung MacTCP, AdminTCP, ConfigPPP, and the PPP init in your
        system file. (You _are_ running System 7.? aren't you?)

2.      Reboot.

3.      Under control panels, click on MacTCP. You should see two
        icons on the control panel; appletalk and PPP.
        Select the "More" button.

4.      You will now see a dizzying array of complicated settings.
        Don't panic!

At this stage, you need to have the following information available to
you:

a.      Your host's IP address. (A series of 4 octal numbers separated
        by periods, like 034.213.2.178 .) This is the internet address
        of the host you are connecting to.

b.      If possible, your own IP address. You may be assigned one on
        a permanent (static) basis, or you may be assigned a different
        one for each connect session (dynamic). If you don't have one,
        it's not crucial, but it helps.

c.      The address of the Manchester Uni domain name server. This is
        an internet host that maps names (like manchester.ac.uk) to
        internet addresses (see [a] above). Again, it's not essential
        but it helps.

4. (continued)

        On the left hand side of the control panel, you'll see a box
        with three radio buttons, called something like "addressing".
        (Sorry this is so imprecise; I'm doing this from memory :)
        Select (server). This means that when you connect to your
        server via TCP/IP, it will tell you your IP number.

5.      At the bottom right, you'll see a box called something like
        "name server" or "DNS mapping". Within it there's a list of
        systems -- hostname to the left, IP address to the right, and
        a radiobutton to the right of that. Enter your domain name
        server's name and IP address in the list, and check it's
        button; this selects it as your name server.

6.      You've now done a [very] basic configuration job on MacTCP.
        Close MacTCP, and from the control panel select ConfigPPP.

7.      You should have the PPP manual that came with the software.
        You will need to read this. One of the things you need to do
        is to write a dial-in script that will tell your modem to dial
        the Gandalf PAD, enter passwords, select services, and
        connect. This kind of procedure is badly documented in the
        MacPPP manual, but basically what you do is open the relevant
        screen (called connect script, or some such) and enter a
        series of lines of dialogue. You specify strings MacPPP is to
        watch for, followed by strings MacPPP is to send, in order to
        establish a connection.  For example, when you need to enter
        your password, you tell MacPPP Want: "assword:" . When MacPPP is
        connecting, it waits until it reads the string "assword:" in its
        input, then proceeds to the next line. The next line is a "send"
        line, and should contain your dialin password.

        Your script should do the following:

        a.      initialize your modem

        b.      dial up the PAD

        c.      wait for the name: prompt (whatever the PAD gives you)

        d.      print your name

        e.      wait for the password: prompt

        f.      print your password

        g.      wait for the next prompt (whatever it is)

        h.      print the command to select NSS

        After exhausting the command script, MacPPP either fails, or
        makes a connection and builds the TCP network link to the host
        at the other end.

Warning: this is a rough stab at the configuration job that lies in
front of you. You are strongly advised to either find a TCP/IP guru
who knows about Macs, or to read up on TCP/IP enough that you
understand the basic concepts. A number of beginner's guides are
available on the net; if you can't find any, mail me and I'll try to
point you at them. The basic concepts aren't hard, if you are computer
literate to begin with, but they're a bit mind-warping at first: we
are dealing with the raw stuff of the internet here. (Once you have
set up a PPP link to your host, you should be able to do other nifty
things like read netnews or use IRC from home. If you can stand the
phone bill :)

Finally, although it may look daunting, it _is_ possible. I use a PPP
connection on my Powerbook 145 to dial into my account at Demon
Systems in Finchley. The main problems seem to be that Apple don't
even want to admit that MacTCP exists -- much less _sell_ it, here in
the UK -- and that the authors of MacPPP did _not_ get a professional
technical author to write the manual, which is cryptic at best.



--
Charlie Stross is [e-mail], [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 11:57:21 BST
From: charless <[e-mail]>
Subject: Eudora - Help with Dial in ? (A)

In info-mac, A.D'[e-mail] writes:

>Subject: Eudora - Help with Dial in ? (Q)

>I have just bought a modem for my PB (Apple Expres Modem) and want to be
>able to make dialup connections to the University from home to check my
>mail.

>I am not sure if this is possible. When I dial in I get to what is known as
>GANDALF PACX where I have to type my name and password. I then have to type
>the name of the service I want to get to as follows:

>NSS <CR>

>This gets me to the pop server (SunOS UNIX). I guess once there Eudora can
>automatically log in.

>I am not sure how to get Eudora to do all of this automatically. From the
>Eudora manual (in Appendix D) it would appear so but I can not figure out
>how to do it. (I am afraid I am not familiar with ResEdit). Can anyone
>offer any advice?

>Regards, Tony D'Emanuele, University of Manchester.

Okay. Let's take this from the top. I'm going to assume you know
relatively little ...

Firstly, you're trying to connect to a pop server running under SunOS.
You've got to go through a gateway to get to it.

Secondly; you've got Eudora. (Were you told that Eudora was a suitable
system by the ManUni support staff?)

Now, the important thing to bear in mind is that Eudora requires a
TCP/IP (internet protocol) network connection to its pop server (which
is the server program that sends you the mail). Establishing the
network connection is going to be a problem. You need:

*       MacTCP (TCP/IP driver for the Macintosh). Eudora requires
        this as the protocol it uses to talk to a pop server runs
        under TCP.

*       A transport mechanism to establish a TCP/IP connection to
        your pop server via the modem.

*       Lots of patience, and some help from someone who knows a
        little about setting up TCP/IP connections. (I've done it,
        and while it isn't impossible it ain't easy. I can't give
        you a simple recipe card: there's no substitute for understanding.)

I _believe_ Eudora is packaged with MacTCP 1.1 -- at least, a US
university licensed MacTCP for unlimited distribution with Eudora.
If you don't have MacTCP, get it: you need it. (Try an archie search
for it and you'll turn up any number of copies lying around the
Internet. Don't try buying it from Apple UK -- they've never heard of
it. I tried: I failed. It was a long and not very pleasant experience.)

MacTCP, when you've dropped it in your system folder and set it up,
enables you to run the internet protocol over any transport layer
you've got installed; appletalk or ethernet are the most common.  In
this instance, you want to use MacTCP over a modem, so you need a SLIP
or PPP driver.  (PPP is generally considered a better protocol than
SLIP for technical reasons, so we'll go for PPP, okay?)  SLIP and PPP
are protocols for sending TCP packets over a modem connection. They're
effectively interchangeable, from the user's point of view.

Two such drivers are available for the Mac in the public domain:
MacPPP and InterSLIP. The former is available for ftp from
sumex-aim.stanford.edu.

To set up your system:

1.      Bung MacTCP, AdminTCP, ConfigPPP, and the PPP init in your
        system file. (You _are_ running System 7.? aren't you?)

2.      Reboot.

3.      Under control panels, click on MacTCP. You should see two
        icons on the control panel; appletalk and PPP.
        Select the "More" button.

4.      You will now see a dizzying array of complicated settings.
        Don't panic!

At this stage, you need to have the following information available to
you:

a.      Your host's IP address. (A series of 4 octal numbers separated
        by periods, like 034.213.2.178 .) This is the internet address
        of the host you are connecting to.

b.      If possible, your own IP address. You may be assigned one on
        a permanent (static) basis, or you may be assigned a different
        one for each connect session (dynamic). If you don't have one,
        it's not crucial, but it helps.

c.      The address of the Manchester Uni domain name server. This is
        an internet host that maps names (like manchester.ac.uk) to
        internet addresses (see [a] above). Again, it's not essential
        but it helps.

4. (continued)

        On the left hand side of the control panel, you'll see a box
        with three radio buttons, called something like "addressing".
        (Sorry this is so imprecise; I'm doing this from memory :)
        Select (server). This means that when you connect to your
        server via TCP/IP, it will tell you your IP number.

5.      At the bottom right, you'll see a box called something like
        "name server" or "DNS mapping". Within it there's a list of
        systems -- hostname to the left, IP address to the right, and
        a radiobutton to the right of that. Enter your domain name
        server's name and IP address in the list, and check it's
        button; this selects it as your name server.

6.      You've now done a [very] basic configuration job on MacTCP.
        Close MacTCP, and from the control panel select ConfigPPP.

7.      You should have the PPP manual that came with the software.
        You will need to read this. One of the things you need to do
        is to write a dial-in script that will tell your modem to dial
        the Gandalf PAD, enter passwords, select services, and
        connect. This kind of procedure is badly documented in the
        MacPPP manual, but basically what you do is open the relevant
        screen (called connect script, or some such) and enter a
        series of lines of dialogue. You specify strings MacPPP is to
        watch for, followed by strings MacPPP is to send, in order to
        establish a connection.  For example, when you need to enter
        your password, you tell MacPPP Want: "assword:" . When MacPPP is
        connecting, it waits until it reads the string "assword:" in its
        input, then proceeds to the next line. The next line is a "send"
        line, and should contain your dialin password.

        Your script should do the following:

        a.      initialize your modem

        b.      dial up the PAD

        c.      wait for the name: prompt (whatever the PAD gives you)

        d.      print your name

        e.      wait for the password: prompt

        f.      print your password

        g.      wait for the next prompt (whatever it is)

        h.      print the command to select NSS

        After exhausting the command script, MacPPP either fails, or
        makes a connection and builds the TCP network link to the host
        at the other end.

Warning: this is a rough stab at the configuration job that lies in
front of you. You are strongly advised to either find a TCP/IP guru
who knows about Macs, or to read up on TCP/IP enough that you
understand the basic concepts. A number of beginner's guides are
available on the net; if you can't find any, mail me and I'll try to
point you at them. The basic concepts aren't hard, if you are computer
literate to begin with, but they're a bit mind-warping at first: we
are dealing with the raw stuff of the internet here. (Once you have
set up a PPP link to your host, you should be able to do other nifty
things like read netnews or use IRC from home. If you can stand the
phone bill :)

Finally, although it may look daunting, it _is_ possible. I use a PPP
connection on my Powerbook 145 to dial into my account at Demon
Systems in Finchley. The main problems seem to be that Apple don't
even want to admit that MacTCP exists -- much less _sell_ it, here in
the UK -- and that the authors of MacPPP did _not_ get a professional
technical author to write the manual, which is cryptic at best.



--
Charlie Stross is [e-mail], [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 08:36:15 -0500 (CDT)
From: Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>
Subject: First Word Plus (Atari) to Mac Word Processor (R)

> Knowing very little about the Atari world my question to the net is:
> Is there a translator utility that will translate [a] thesis which is
> done
> in First Word Plus on the Atari to MS Word on the Mac and preserve
> the footnotes?

        I can't recall if WordPerfect ST can translate First Word Plus
files or not, but that might be the way to do it.  Assuming that
WordPerfect ST can, I'd do that and then save the files into WordPerfect
IBMish 4.2 or 5.1 format.  The Mac can read those.
        When I came to the Mac from the Atari world, I was fortunate in
that I used WordPerfect ST for all my wordprocessing needs and conversion
to the Mac world was not nearly as painful in the conversion process as it
could have been.
        I'd think other Atari STers who have entered the Mac world could
"come out of the closet" and offer some advice.

--Larry Rymal <[e-mail]>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 16:12:49 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Michael S. Silverstein)
Subject: Fullwrite conversion - HELP

I have written a fullwrite document about 100kB long that uses the
following fullwrite features: catagorize/citations, endnotes/rereference,
and outline/table of contents.

I tried to convert this document into MSWord4 using word to word conversion
program, but I would get between 25 to 50% there and crash.  This would
happen regardless of what format I converted to (WP, etc.)

I then saved the document as MacWrite and used PCLink to convert to
MSWord4.  That ALMOST worked, I got everything except the references and
rereferences to the endnotes within the text. I tried saving to text but
that was worse.

All I want is a text version that can be read in MSWord as if I had scanned
in the document and used OCR.  I do not need to integrate the endnotes in
MSWord into the document, but where I see a [4] in Fullwrite I want, at
least, a [4] in MSWord.

Is there anyway I can get the FULL TEXT of my fullwrite document so that I
can then pass it around?

Thanks for any help...mike


--
Dr. M.S. Silverstein
Materials Engineering
[e-mail] OR jli@cwru

------------------------------

Date: 13 Aug 1993 08:48:35 -0800
From: "Erstad" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Headers disappearing in Word 5.1

We are having trouble with headers disappearing in Word 5.1. They seem to
vanish without warning. We've disabled the fast save option and it still
happens. Any suggestions?

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 10:38:41 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: how to secure Mac LC III's

Dear all,

I just started installing a new class of Mac LC III's. However I only now
discovered that Apple changed it's mind about the way we used to secure
our old Mac SE's.
It turns out one now needs 3 of the smaller cables that were previously
used to secure the keyboard. However the standard kits only have 1 of these.
Does anybody know of a good and cheap solution ?

Thanks in advance,
Marc

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 10:38:41 +0200
From: [e-mail]
Subject: how to secure Mac LC III's

Dear all,

I just started installing a new class of Mac LC III's. However I only now
discovered that Apple changed it's mind about the way we used to secure
our old Mac SE's.
It turns out one now needs 3 of the smaller cables that were previously
used to secure the keyboard. However the standard kits only have 1 of these.
Does anybody know of a good and cheap solution ?

Thanks in advance,
Marc

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 12:04:21 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Michael A. McGuire)
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V11 #159

In Article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (The Moderators) wrote:
>Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 13:05 EST
>From: Jim Allison <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Help! Quadra 800, OCR abd old Apple scanner
>
>One of our faculty members relays heavily on OCR in his research.
>He recently purchased a Quadra 800, hoping to speed up his work.
>What he got was a world of problems. It seems that the OmniPage will not
>work with the old Apple 4-bit scanner on a Quadra 800.  Has anyone
>used this combination of hardware and software successfully?  Has anyone
>used some other OCR software with this combination of hardware?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jim Allison
>Clark University IRC

If he can afford an Q800 and OCR is important tell him to get an HP ScanJet
IIc. We run that with OmniPage Pro on a IIfx and it screams.


Michael A. McGuire, :-)
[e-mail]
UTCC - User Services

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 15:52:51 MDT
From: "Roger B. Marks"  <[e-mail]>
Subject: InterSLIP

Gerald Siek <[e-mail]> writes that, to run SLIP,

>You need a high speed modem and a Mac with MacSLIP ...
>MacSLIP is not in the public domain, it is available from HydePark Software.

Actually, there is another way to get SLIP going. Quoting from
info-mac/report/comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt:

           o InterCon Systems is shipping a MacTCP extension with their
             networking product (TCP/Connect II), and as a separate
             package (InterSLIP).

             HOWEVER, InterCon has graciously made InterSLIP available
             to Internet users for FREE. You can FTP InterSLIP from
             ftp.intercon.com in InterCon/sales.

             Demonstration versions of various InterCon products are also
             available at this FTP address.

             Contact: [e-mail], [USA] [phone]


I just picked it up today, and it works. And it's very cool.



Roger
[e-mail]            NIST/Boulder, CO

------------------------------

Date: 13 Aug 1993 19:56:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: "/R=UTMEM/R=A1/U=JKARAS/O=CLINICAL RESEARCH CENTER/FFN=JAMES GEORGE
KARAS/"@MR.UTMEM.EDU
Subject: Logging cpu use/time & Mac system accountinig revisited

At last, some movement on my posting in Info-Mac 11-152 which was:

 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Subject: Mac system accounting software

>Is there any mac system accounting software out there that will keep track
>of how macs are utilized? I'm thinking of a program that will run in the
>background and give me information such as: hours of processor usage; hours
of
>connect time; instances/hours of a particular application program use etc. I
>have a LAN composed of a quadra 700 fileserver with about 5 macs on it and it
>is of interest to keep track of use statistics on a monthly/quarterly/yearly
>basis. This is the type of activity that was easy to capture on
minicomputers.
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Subject: Logging CPU Use/Time

>>A few issues ago (I can't recall exactly), someone posted a query I've been
>>wondering about myself for quite some time...Is there an app that will log
>>CPU activity (e.g. date/time the unit ispowered up, time when it is accessed
>>by someone on the net, the date/timeit is shutdown, etc.). I have been
looking
>>regularly for a response to the original posting, but have seen none. I am
>>particularly interested inkeeping a log of start-ups and shut-downs (sort of
a
>>time card function).

>>Does anyone know of any such app.

>>P.S. The smaller (my system already eats up half my memory) and simpler
>>(KISS principle, ya know) the app the better!Thanks in advance! I will
>>summarize (eventually).Monty

>>[e-mail]
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>Subject: Logging CPU Use/Time (R)

>>>I got Detective, which logs start and stop time for system and apps
>>>into a file.  I don't think it will log net accesses.  It's currently
>>>available as shareware from America On Line, but not from info-mac.  I
>>>tried to contact the author for permission to upload to info-mac, but
>>>couldn't figure out his email address from the documentation.

>>>I'm working on Alpha/TCL code to summarize the logs by app, but
>>>haven't got that working yet.

>>>Jack Repenning
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks to Monty Hampton and Jack Repenning for resurrecting this issue.I'm
surprised that there is no mention of a commercial package available to handle
this, thinking that this question was/should have been raised long ago.My next
question is to Jack Repenning: what is Alpha/TCL code? Will it run on my
Macs?
Is there anothersource for Detective?

The main reason for this request is that i have to write a report at the end
of
the year summarizing usage by as many criteria as one can imagine. Knowing
which
software had the highest usage is also an important measurement, but actual
time
depicting software/human interaction with the mac can be used for requesting
upgrades to faster CPUs, justifying usage, etc.

Jim Karas ([e-mail])

------------------------------

Date: 13 Aug 93 10:27:00 EST
From: "MIKE TAPPY" <[e-mail]>
Subject: LW8 & PPD help needed

Jay Cross writes:
>I've lately been fooling around with the LaserWriter 8 drivers (d/l'd
>From ftp.Apple.Com) and have run into a small problem.  I work with
>a small non-profit group that has three LCIIs and a NEC Silentwriter
>95.  On the set of disks that came with the printer (about a year old)
>are several PPD files.  One of them is the one asked for by the LW8
>driver (when clicking the Printer Info button, I think).  When this is
>copied to the extensions folder and the LW8 driver is brought up in
>the Chooser, trying to manually select this PPD returns something
>like "This doesn't look like a valid PPD file".  You must then OK the
>use of the Generic PPD or cancel.

You might try ftping /pub/adobe/PPDFiles/NC95FAX1.PPD from
ftp.adobe.com and see if it works or is the same as what your using.

Michael G. Tappy             [phone]
Naval Air Warfare Center     [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 13 Aug 1993 14:47:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <[e-mail]>
Subject: LW 8.0 & Mathematica conflict

One of our faculty members is having problems using the LaserWriter 8.0 driver
with Mathematica 2.2.1--specifically, if LW8.0 is chosen in the Chooser,
Mathematica will crash on startup, but if some other printer driver is chosen,
you can boot Mathematica, use Chooser to switch to LW8.0, and then print.
Obviously, this is awkward at least, and when you consider this is in a
classroom/lab situation with non-computer-literate college students, it
becomes
unusable.  For the time being we're sticking with the older drivers, but we'd
prefer the nicer features of LW8.0 (e.g. we want to print TrueType to a
PrintServer 40).

By the way, this is on a network of LCIII's and Centris 650's running System
7.1 and the Disinfectant protection INIT.  I believe he's also running a
shareware security program called LockDisk or something.  He contacted Wolfram
tech support and they said there was a problem with LW8.0 and Mathematica 2.1,
but the problem is fixed in 2.2; unfortunately, he's USING 2.2.1 already, and
the problem still persists.  Wolfram said it seems to be something Apple is
doing wrong, but they can't track it down and have no further suggestions to
offer at this time, other than perhaps contacting Apple tech support.

Anybody out there have any info on the subject?  Thanks.  Reply by Email to me
and I'll summarize if anyone is interested.

Mark Nutter
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 14:20:22
From: [e-mail] (Nicholas Cook)
Subject: Mac 512K Software

Dear All

This is really a question from the dark ages of Macintosh use.

I was given (yes, GIVEN = FREE) three 512K Macs, all equipped with external
drives, and an Imagewriter I.  The people who owned them had no further use
for them and anyway, all but one of the 6 disk drives refused to eject disks.
A friendly word with a local technician plus the purchase of a bottle of
Bacardi got four of the faulty drives to work, but not the last one.  All the
drives, except the unfixable one, are 400K.  Being a non-greedy sort I gave
two of the computers and one working external drive away and kept one
computer, one external drive and the printer for myself.

I used to use a Mac like this several years ago in a job so I am well aware of
what software will run on them and how different bits of software compare.  I
also do not want to upgrade to a Mac plus because one of my favourite games
won't work with the Plus Roms (banile reason I know, but it's fun!).  Soooo..,
the question is this:

Who do I contact, or where can I find, legitimate copies (preferably with
manuals, but not strictly essential) of software such as:

Excel 1.x
Writenow 2.2
Filemaker Plus
Turbo Pascal (I can't remember the appropriate version)
Any other useful items
+ collections of 512K friendly utilities.

Alternatively, does anyone out there have old copies of software they want rid
of for a small fee?  Being in a University I could simply rip software off the
students I support, but I like to stay the right side of the law if poss.  Any
ideas?

Nick Cook
University of Leeds
United Kingdom
email: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1993 13:42:12 -0100
From: Ian Harries <[e-mail]>
Subject: MACINTOSH SOFTWARE UTILITY UPDATE 1.0

MACINTOSH SOFTWARE UTILITY UPDATE 1.0 is now available via anon ftp from
ftp.apple.com as /dts/mac/sys.soft/utils/software-utility-1-0-image.hqx

[This is an 800K disk image file, so in addition to an unbinhexing utility,
one will also need Apple DiskCopy, available as /dts/util/diskcopy-4-2.hqx]

Here's the ReadMe file -

***** start *****

MACINTOSH SOFTWARE UTILITY UPDATE 1.0

WHAT IS THE MACINTOSH SOFTWARE UTILITY UPDATE?

The "Macintosh Software Utility Update" is an update of the utility
programs shipped with certain Macintosh computers running System 7.1.
(Note:  This update will be most useful if you have Macintosh system
software version 7.1 installed on your computer.)

WHAT THE MACINTOSH SOFTWARE UTILITY UPDATE DOES

This system update delivers a number of software enhancements to Macintosh
users. Following are brief descriptions of the enhancements found in the
Macintosh Software Utility Update 1.0. The update:

Note: If you own a Macintosh Performa computer,  you will receive a disk
called "Utilities" instead of "Disk Tools". The "Utilities" disk contains
all of the functionality of the System 7.1 "Disk Tools" disk, plus the
"Apple Restore" program.

- Includes Apple HD SC Setup version 7.2, which gives you more flexibility
to format large Apple hard drives between 1 and 2 gigabytes. (Note:  We
recommend that you update your hard drive drivers and also update the
version of this utility that is on your System 7.1 "Disk Tools" disk. See
"Updating Apple Utilities" and "Updating Apple Drivers" below.)  Note:
Always attempt to run Apple Disk First Aid 7.2 before running HD SC Setup.
Reformatting your drive is a serious decision and should only be done after
verifying that Disk First Aid is not able to fix your problem.

- Includes Apple Disk First Aid 7.2, a utility that repairs damaged drives.
This version contains a brand-new (differing greatly from the last, 7.1.1,
release of Disk First Aid) user interface.  (Note:  We recommend that you
update the version of this utility that is on your System 7.1 "Disk Tools"
or Performa "Utilities" disk. See "Updating Apple Utilities" and "Updating
Apple Drivers" below.)

-Includes MacCheck 1.0.4, a support utility that has previously been placed
only on Performa and LC 520 computers at the factory.
        MacCheck creates a profile of your Macintosh computer, including:
                - The processor, memory, expansion cards, SCSI drives,
keyboard, monitor, etc.
                - The installed applications and system software on your
startup drive

        MacCheck also provides:
                - A general logic board test
                - A checker for the file system and System files
                - A checker for duplicate System Folders

(Note: We recommend that you update the version of this utility that is on
your hard drive--if you already have it. See "Updating MacCheck Utility"
below.)

Q&A:
Q: WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE "SOFTWARE UTILITY UPDATE 1.0" DISK
AND THE "HARDWARE SYSTEM UPDATE 2.0" DISK?
A:  The Software Utility Update 1.0 provides you with the new Apple support
utility program, MacCheck.  It also includes a newer version of the Apple
Disk First Aid program (version 7.2) than is on the Hardware System Update
2.0 disk.  The Apple HD SC Setup program included on the Software Utility
Update 1.0 disk is the same one included on the Hardware System Update 2.0
disk.  The Hardware System Update 2.0 disk provides a set of software
enhancements (not intended for Performa users) that improves the
performance of certain Macintosh computers running System 7.1.  are The
Software Utility Update 1.0 disk does not include these enhancements.

Q: WHY IS APPLE RELEASING TWO UPDATES ONLY WEEKS APART THAT HAVE NEWER
VERSIONS OF THE SAME SOFTWARE?
A:  Apple posted the Software Utility Update 1.0 disk immediately after the
Apple Disk First Aid 7.2 and MacCheck 1.0.4 programs were released. Because
the Hardware System Update 2.0 disk contains a much greater variety of
software, its schedule was much less flexible, causing the change to the
original plan for the two disks to be released about two months apart.
Apple feels that the confusion caused by having two back-to-back releases
is outweighed by the benefits to our customers of getting the new utilities
in the Software Utilities Update 1.0 disk now.

UPDATING MACCHECK UTILITY

The MacCheck f folder on the "Software Utility Update" disk contains the
latest version of the MacCheck application.  This update is intended to
permanently replace the copies of MacCheck that you may already have on
your Macintosh hard drive.

Follow these steps to complete the updates:

1.  Put the "Software Utility Update" disk into your floppy disk drive.

2.  Choose a folder on your hard drive into which you will place MacCheck.
If you are replacing MacCheck, please choose the folder that it exists in.
 MacCheck is placed in the Applications folder on Macintosh Performa
systems and in the Utilities folder on Macintosh LC 520 systems.  If you
are unsure if you already have MacCheck, click on your hard drive icon, and
then use the Find menu item in the File menu to search for "MacCheck".

3.  Click on the MacCheck f window to make it active, and then choose
Select All from the Edit menu.

4.  Click either icon in the MacCheck f window and drag it on top of the
icon of the folder on your hard drive that you wish to copy to, then
release the mouse button. (Note:  Both the "MacCheckT" and the "MacCheckT
dataFile" icons should have moved to the selected folder. If only one icon
moved, you can try to repeat steps 3 and 4, or simply click and drag the
icon that did not move from the MacCheck f folder to the selected folder.)

5.  If your Macintosh warns you that the files in your selected folder have
the same names as the items that you are moving, click OK.

UPDATING APPLE UTILITIES

The Utilities f folder on the "Software Utility Update" disk contains the
latest versions of the Apple HD SC Setup and Apple Disk First Aid
applications. These updates are intended to permanently replace the copies
of Apple HD SC Setup and Apple Disk First Aid that come on your System 7.1
"Disk Tools" disk. Follow these steps to complete the updates:

1.  Put the "Software Utility Update" disk into your floppy disk drive.
Then choose Eject Disk from the Special menu.

2.  Put the System 7.1 "Disk Tools" disk into your floppy disk drive.

3.  Click the Utilities f window to make it active, and then choose Select
All from the Edit menu.

4.  Click either icon in the Utilities f window and drag it on top of the
icon for the "Disk Tools" disk, then release the mouse button. (Note:  Both
the HD SC Setup and the Disk First Aid icons should have moved to the "Disk
Tools" disk. If only one icon moved, you can try to repeat steps 3 and 4,
or simply click and drag the icon that did not move from the Utilities f
folder to the "Disk Tools" disk.)

5.  Your Macintosh warns you that the files on your "Disk Tools" disk have
the same names as the items that you are moving.  Click OK.

6.  You will be asked to insert specific disks until the files are fully
copied.


UPDATING APPLE DRIVERS

The Macintosh "Software Utility Update" also contains a driver update for
Apple hard drives. You should install the driver update on each Apple hard
drive you own by following these steps:

1.  With your computer off, insert the updated System 7.1 "Disk Tools" disk
into your floppy drive. Now turn your computer on. (Note:  The "Disk Tools"
disk should already be modified according to the six steps listed in
"Updating Apple Utilities" above.)

2.  Double-click the "Disk Tools" icon to open the disk.

3.  Double-click the Apple HD SC Setup icon in the "Disk Tools" window.

4.  Click the Drive button until the name of the hard drive you want to
update appears as the volume name.

5.  Click the Test button.  It is very important that you first test your
drive before trying to update the drivers on your drive.

6.  Click the Update button.

7.  Repeat steps 4 and 5 for any other Apple hard disk drives you own.

8.  Click the Quit button.

For more information on Apple HD SC Setup and Apple Disk First Aid, refer
to your Macintosh user's guides.  For more information on MacCheck, refer
to either the TeachText document "MacCheckT Read Me", the Microsoft Word or
MacWrite II documents "MacCheckT User Guide.msWrd"/"MacCheckT User
Guide.mwII" (the "User Guide" documents contain easier to read text
(formatted and titled better), plus technical details that the Read Me does
not).

Every effort has been made to ensure that the information in this document
is accurate.  Apple is not responsible for printing or clerical errors.

Every effort has been made to ensure that the information presented in the
programs included on this disk are accurate.  Apple is not responsible for
printing or clerical errors.

C 1993 Apple Computer, Inc.
20525 Mariani Avenue
Cupertino, CA  95014-6299
[phone]

Apple, the Apple logo, AppleShare, AppleTalk, A/UX, EtherTalk, ImageWriter,
LaserWriter, ImageWriter, Macintosh, and MultiFinder are trademarks of
Apple Computer, Inc., registered in the United States and other countries.

Apple Desktop Bus, Apple SuperDrive, At Ease, Balloon Help, Disk First Aid,
Finder, MacCheck, Macintosh Centris, Macintosh Quadra, Macintosh PowerBook,
Macintosh Performa, Macintosh PowerBook Duo, QuickDraw, ResEdit, System 7,
and TrueType are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc.

Classic is a registered trademark, licensed to Apple Computer, Inc.

NuBus is a trademark of Texas Instruments, Inc.

*****  end  *****

------------------------------

Date: 13 Aug 93 11:59:20 GMT
From: Nigel Bruce <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacPrefect Explanation

In the confusion surrounding several unsucessful attempts to mail
the archive to you I don't think an explanation of what MacPrefect
actually is ever appeared in the digest.

Please could you include this in the next digest.

Thanks

Nigel

***

MacPrefect is a set of programs designed for system administrators. It
limits the extent to which users are able to change the setup of
Macintoshes in public labs. To this end, it prevents users

Changing Control Panel settings - the ones you choose.
Moving and deleting important files - e.g. System and Finder
Installing new applications
Copying applications
Running unauthorised applications
Renaming hard disks

There is also an auxillary program called DiskPerfect prevents
users bypassing these protections by booting from a floppy disk.

I have no connection with Hi Resolution - the authors of the software. I'm
just a satisfied customer! This is a running demonstration of the main
features of the package. The package itself is surprisingly cheap
(well I think so).

They can be contacted on (Tel/Fax) 044 892 724050.
Applelink:WIZZARDWARE
Internet: [e-mail]

Program archived as info-mac/app/mac-prefect-demo.hqx



Nigel Bruce
Computing Service, Leeds University, LEEDS LS2 9JT
Email [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 13 Aug 93 11:59:20 GMT
From: Nigel Bruce <[e-mail]>
Subject: MacPrefect Explanation

MacPrefect is a set of programs designed for system administrators. It
limits the extent to which users are able to change the setup of
Macintoshes in public labs. To this end, it prevents users

Changing Control Panel settings - the ones you choose.
Moving and deleting important files - e.g. System and Finder
Installing new applications
Copying applications
Running unauthorised applications
Renaming hard disks

There is also an auxillary program called DiskPerfect prevents
users bypassing these protections by booting from a floppy disk.

I have no connection with Hi Resolution - the authors of the software. I'm
just a satisfied customer! This is a running demonstration of the main
features of the package. The package itself is surprisingly cheap
(well I think so).

They can be contacted on (Tel/Fax) 044 892 724050.
Applelink:WIZZARDWARE
Internet: [e-mail]

[Archived as /info-mac/app/mac-prefect-demo.hqx; 810K]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 16:07:08 PDT
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Mail Gateways

I am a student returning from California to Texas where I go to school.
I had, when in California made many new friends.

To the question.....I am looking for addressing methods from Internet to
the following

MCI Mail...Applelink.....

I know currently Compuserve and AOL as
"[e-mail][e-mail]"

Do these other services offer gateways?  Send replies to the following.

Thanks in advance.

Matt Petrowsky

[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 13 Aug 93 11:02:59 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Anders Hagstrom)
Subject: Mind mapping software (R)

Anyone know about Mind Mapping software for the Mac?
I've seen and ad for a PC/Win software from Scottish
CEDAR Software Limited, Mind Map Plus....

Anders

------------------------------

Date: 13 Aug 93 11:02:59 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Anders Hagstrom)
Subject: Mind mapping software (R)

Anyone know about Mind Mapping software for the Mac?
I've seen and ad for a PC/Win software from Scottish
CEDAR Software Limited, Mind Map Plus....

Anders

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 08:46:09 EST
From: "Kirke B. Lawton" <[e-mail]>
Subject: More Disk Space warning

I found this out the hard way, so I hope I can save some of you from
the same problem.  It is very important that you make sure your
backup utility is listed in the Application Exceptions list before
you backup MDS compressed files.  I know for a fact that CP Backup
(the backup utility included with Central Point Software's MacTools)
is *not* currently on this list.  It's predecessor, MacTools Backup,
is on the list, but it doesn't cover the CP Backup.

What happens if you don't add it to the exceptions list?  Well, as a
public service I made this mistake and lost lots of data.  Specifically,
the tail end of many compressed files were lost.  Raw text files were
simply truncated, other documents were rendered unreadable.  Apparently
CP Backup determines the sectors to backup before the files are uncompressed,
so it doesn't save all of the larger, uncompressed files.

I have discussed this with Alysis and CPS on AOL.  CPS was decidedly
unresponsive; Alysis agreed it needs to be more clear about warning
users about this hazard.

I suggest you check your backups now before you need them.  The backup
you are depending on might not be worth very much if you made the same
mistake I did.

I want to point out that I haven't had any other problems with MDS compressed
files.  I find it to be very useful and safe, except in this one avoidable
case.

Kirke B. Lawton
[e-mail]     or   [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 15:49:21 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Moving Large Files MAC<->DOS

To all,
After checking at least several of the appropriate lists, I think this one is
not an FAQ.  If it is please forgive me.

I am trying to move large amounts of data (images, mostly) from a DOS system
(apologies, {:^) ) to a MAC.  Floppies, though possible, are extremely tedious
for the smaller files and **very** awkward for the larger ones.  Although we
have an ethernet LAN available, the DOS system in question is not a candidate
for connection as it is not supported (!) by our MIS group.  Unfortunately,
the
system is part of an image acquisition system.  Ideally, I would like to find
a
large, interchangeable medium that can be connected to both the MAC and the
PeeCee.  Bernouilli drives, although fine products in themselves and
electrically connectable to both platforms, are not intercompatible in terms
of
disk formats (!!!!!).

Is there another solution, not including buying another DOS box that can be
connected to the net just to move the data?  Oh, and one other thing:  the DOS
machine in question is not physically near any MACs, so that direct connection
would also be awkward.  Sorry to surround this with so many restrictions, but
they are real, and a nuisance.  Please respond directly to me at the address
below.  Thanks to all, in advance, and if there is enough interest, I will
post
the answers to the net.

Joel Lazewatsky
Dupont Merck Radiopharmaceutical R&D
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:48:16 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: Now Compress

> Can anyone offer comment/caveats/etc on Now Compress (a 'transparent'
> disk compression utility a la AutoDoubler/DiskDoubler)? Their ads
> claim it's better, faster, cleaner, newer, and so on, but I'd be
> interested in comments >From a more objective source... that's where
> you come in!

I've been running on my Mac IIx with a Daystar 50mhz '030 at work for
a few weeks now, and it works as advertised.  Now Compress's archival
feautre, in my experience, compresses much faster than Stuffit Deluxe,
with the compressed file being as small as the Stuffit archive.  I haven't
done any comparison with AutoDoubler (which I have running at home on
my SE/30) but I haven't noticed any perceptible slow down in opening documents
or Apps.  It's not been impressive enough, however, for me to throw out
AD, DD, and Stuffit on my machine at home.  It's a good value for those
who haven't already invested in those programs, but I don't see it becoming
a standard of any kind.  All IMHO, of course.

                                   Ken

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 10:05:35 -0600 (CST)
From: Ron Berntson <[e-mail]>
Subject: PageMaker 4.2 Book printing

I have a four part PM document that I have assembled into a book. Using
PM4.2, a Mac IIvi, and a Personal LaserWriter IINT, I select print book in
the print dialog. The application unexpectedly quits with a type 1 error.
I=D5ve reinstalled the PM software and turned off all extensions, but to no
avail. Any clues as to how I can successfully publish a book?
=20
Thanks
Ron Berntson
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 16:12:56 MDT
From: Richard D. Jones <[e-mail]>
Subject: Problem with Grades

I downloaded Grades 2.0 from info-mac's app directory.
Although the file decompressed properly (I was able to
read the document files) the application locked up my
Mac when I tried to launch it.  I tried emailing the
author via the address in his 1986 document, but got
a "return to sender, address unknown."  Is there a
workable version of Grades somewhere out there?
        Thanks for providing sumex.
<<      Richard D. Jones
        NIST 814.02
        325 Broadway
        Boulder, CO  80303

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 14:20:50 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: Quirky Mac behavior

My SE/30 (System 7.0.1, tuned up appropriately, 8 megs RAM) "hangs"
whenever I try to hold the shift key down on startup, i.e. whenever I try
to launch without extensions. I have similar problems when I try to hold
the Command-Option keys down at startup, i.e. when I try to rebuild the
desktop. In the latter case, I can only rebuild the desktop by holding the
Command-Options keys down after Disinfectant and Now Startup Manager have
loaded.

Has anybody had similar problems, and if so, what ultimately solved it for
you?

Thanks for your help.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 12:38:46 CDT
From: Mack <[e-mail]>
Subject: Ready, Set, Go!

Are there any users of ready,set,go! out there?  If so, have u upgraded
to the new version?  How is it?  I am a long time user that switched over
to Quark, and an thinking of going back to it.  IS grouping included in
PM 5.0?

Mack

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 10:03:13 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Carol Conti-Entin)
Subject: SE has DTs. What Else to Try???

The Free [Medical] Clinic of Greater Cleveland has an SE (System 6.0.7;
Finder 6.1.7; one FDHD drive; one internal hard drive with SCSI ID #6)
that in the past week has been exhibiting this weird behavior:

When the SE is first turned on, there's the initial happy face, but then
the Welcome to Macintosh screen shakes like it has the DTs  _OR_  that
welcome screen is fine, but then comes the disk icon with the ? in it
_OR_  there's the Bomb screen with message "Sorry, a system error occurred
address error" (in which case clicking the Restart button works fine).

If the first or second condition occurred and we then restart usng a
floppy, the hard disk icon USUALLY won't appear.  (If it doesn't appear,
Norton Disk Doctor can still find it, check it out, and report that
everything is fine, but the Apple Installer and PRAM-zapping routine
can't find it.) But whether or not a floppy restart finds the hard disk,
a subsequent hard-disk restart usually works FINE, and the hard disk
can be used as though nothing was ever amiss.

I have already done the following (several times each): zapped the PRAM,
rebuilt the desktop, and completely reinstalled the system in the way
that doesn't simply modernize possibly corrupted system files but entirely
replaces them. Also, there have been no new INITS added in ages.

It's beginning to sound like a possible hardware problem with the hard
disk itself (bought at a store that no longer exists).  Since this non-
profit organization I help is very strapped of cash, however, is there
anything else I can try before they attempt to have the hard disk serviced?
Or is there someone in NE Ohio well versed in fixing Mac hardware problems
who'd be willing to give of your time to this very worthy nonprofit to see
if you can fix the problem?  Thanks in advance!

--
Carol Conti-Entin  2878 Chadbourne Road, Shaker Heights, OH 44120-2215
216-561-8720   Internet: [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 22:10 EST
From: "NRN TIA :-)" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Speech Manager (Q)

Dear Netters,
I have noticed on recent postings that some products need Speech Manager.  Do
the Macs that already have a Microphone port (like the LC, Classic II etc...)
in back need an additional Speech Manager to run these programs?    Where do I
get Speech Manager (commercial, gopher, ftp)?  Thank you.
Sincerely
[e-mail]
- sorry if this is a FAQ.:-)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 17:20:49 -0400
From: [e-mail] (Steve Portigal)
Subject: Speech Manager Docs

 What format are those documentation files in? Can't open them on my Mac.
What information do they contain?

Steve

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 11:21:14 -0500
From: PAUL M SHELDON <[e-mail]>
Subject: Stuffit spacesaver confuses norton disk doctor (Q)

    Have vague memories of digest writing on this before I started saving
space with space saver. Now, disk doctor cycles keeps wanting to fix
things on one of my removable drives and then complains that files are
crosslinked. I copy the files out trash them and copy them back in and
then another cycle begins from disk doctor with new fault finding and
suggested changes.
    What gives?

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 16:38:54 GMT
From: [e-mail] (Duncan Peter G. Thornton)
Subject: StyleWrite II driver won't share

I've been using the StyleWriter II driver to share my StyleWriter I,
and not long ago it started getting even more touchy than usual about
applications and try again - even when I'm running no applications .In
fact, when I have no applications running and have no extensions, etc.
but appleshare, the Network Extension, PrinterShare, and the
StyleWriter II driver loaded, which is to say I can't get it
to work at all.

I'm running System 7.1 on an LCIII. Anyone have any clues for the
clueless?

- Duncan     [e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 19:26:58 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Symantec Again. Durn It.

This seems to be my week for Symantec bashing. After the truly goofy
response I got from NORTON.TECH about my secretary's continuing plaint
that her "Sting" startup screen gets blasted by SAM's startup scan (And
I didn't even mention his suggestion that I stop making Sharon scan her
HD for viruses on her daily startup. Say what?), I was sort of hoping to
lay off them for a while. I've liked Symantec and its products over the
many years I've dealt with both. Then Leslye's birthday present came.

Her new Centris 650, like all the new Macs, needs System Enablers to do
anything. Gee, I hate that "feature." But I digress. SAM 3.5 threw a fit
on interactions with DaynaFile Plus and Public Utility's Prevention upon
startup, and clicking SAM's "remember" button didn't help. SOS with every
startup or restart. I called Symantec. Yes, that is a problem with older
versions of SAM 3.5 that has been corrected. They'll send an update.

After I hung up, I thought to myself, "Self, why wait for the update? The
new kid in the office has a new SAM 3.5, yes? Copy his disks." That sort
of thing used to work. Not on SAM's 3.5.1 incarnation. Three different
floppy copies -- system, MacTools' FastCopy, DiskCopy 4.2 onto previously
formatted disks -- died. The installer knew it was not on the original
disk and refused to install. The copied HD emergency disk wouldn't boot.

The solution was using DiskCopy 4.2 to go from the real 3.5.1 disks to
absolutely virgin destination disks.

Oh fer naughtyword's sake! Copy protection? How DOS! How last month! How
naughtywording stupid can Symantec get? I've said long and loud that copy
protection serves mostly to annoy legitimate users. This confirms.

I dropped a major flame to NORTON.TECH last night on the subject. I don't
have time for this nonsense. Those folk haven't responded.

Too ruddy bad. I've liked Symantec over the years. I can't recommend the
firm or its products right now. I'm seriously considering switching the
office to a perhaps more reputable vendor. Pricey. But maybe worth the
cost and bother.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 15:46:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Christopher D Roy <[e-mail]>
Subject: System 7.1- Extensions, System Enablers


        Dear Info-Mackers-
I have recently purchased a Centris 610 w/CD-ROM, EtherNet and System 7.1
installed.  I am used to using System 7 on my old mac, and know alot about
it, but 7.1 is a little different.  So I have some questions.  First, what
is A/ROSE? Is it nessecary to my setup.  Second, what system enablers do I
use? The thing came with everything including the kitchen sink and ALL the
enablers installed.  Third, what are the extensions "Installer Cleanup"
and "Hardware System Update", do I really NEED them, and what are they?
        -Thanx
                Nick Roy, PraxisGraphix


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 10:29:23 EST
From: [e-mail] (Peter Kerns)
Subject: Terminal Emulators & TCP/IP

We are looking for a new terminal emulator.  Does anyone know of a good
emulator that will do a TCP/IP connection over a network?  We are looking
for something relatively inexpensive but a whole lot better then NCSA
telnet.

Any suggestions or experiences would be appreciated.

Peter Kerns
[e-mail]

------------------------------

Date: 12 Aug 1993 15:04:37 -0500
From: [e-mail] (Edgar Knapp)
Subject: Warning: Symbionts 2.1 may be dangerous to your System's heatlth

Werner, you decide whether to post this to c.s.m.announce.

I test a lot of buggy stuff, but this is just a little much....

        [ Edgar, folks on the net,
        [
        [       I will accept this for immediate distribution based on
        [ the good reputation of Edgar and under the assumption that a
        [ follow-up effort (contacting the author and reporting back]
        [ about further developments) is being undertaken;  in other, similar
        [ cases, I may require seconds (confirmation by more than one
        [ user) and/or evidence of having contacted the author(s) and,
        [ if at all possible, her (intended for public distibution) response.
        [
        [ I myself would indeed rather receive (now) the warning about this
        [ problem (and refrain from installing/testing the program for the
        [ time being) trusting that a fellow netter has taken the matter
        [ under investigation...
        [                                       ---Werner

======================================================================

I just played around with Symbionts, a new, snazzy looking shareware
extension manager, available at an archive near you. I immediately
discovered some minor bugs, such as preferences not sticking, etc.

Then after a couple of test reboots I decided to create a second set
of extensions for use while disconnected from the net. Then all hell
broke loose. All items disappeared from all special folders (Apple
Menu Items, Control Panels, Extensions, Fonts, Startup Items, etc.)
into their "disabled" equivalents. I mean every thing got moved, even
Comm ToolBox stuff and printer fonts files; even most files in the
System Folder were moved to the "System Extensions (enabled)" etc.

No surprise that this rendered the System unbootable. I could undo all
the damage by manually moving everything back to the right place, what
a pain! Incidentally, afterwards Public Utilities discovered that my
System File was corrupted as well, but in all fairness I have to admit
that I have no hard evidence that Symbionts had anything to do with
this.

I do suggest you refrain from using this utility until it has been
properly debugged.


Edgar Knapp

--
Edgar Knapp                             [e-mail]
Purdue University
Department of Computer Sciences         [phone] (voice)
West Lafayette, IN 47907-1398           [phone]  (fax)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 09:25:21 -0300 (ADT)
From: [e-mail] (George White)
Subject: Why isn't our Quadra 800 faster than our IIsi?

We have a Mac IIsi (Maxtor 8760 drive, 5M RAM, Apple 13" screen, Kodak
XL7700 SCSI printer, SCSI optical disk, Mirus SCSI film printer) that
is used as a "driver" for the printers.  Files to be printed are
placed on the Maxtor drive, loaded into Photoshop, and "exported" to
the printer with a minimum of processing (the most we do is add some
annotations or place several smaller images on a "page").  The files
are prepared elsewhere in various formats that Photoshop can import.
Input files range from 1 to 20 MB, and generally produce a 3-10MB
Photoshop file.

Loading files on the IIsi is painfully slow, often taking longer than
printing.  We hope to reduce the time required to print files by
replacing the IIsi with a Quadra 840av.  In order to get a feeling
for the potential benefits, I tried loading a "typical" file in
Photoshop on a Quadra 800 (40M RAM, Radius 24X driving Apple 16"
screen, Apple 240M internal drive, SCSI scanner), and was disappointed
to find that the time required to load the file was only marginally
reduced (the file was a 1MB Adobe Illustrator file, as Illustrator
is a common import format and loads more slowly than others).
Several explanations and solutions have been offered:

1.  the Apple drive is slow; results would be much better using
the Apple 1GB drive

2.  the problem is that the scanner and the hard disk are on the same
bus, for best results add a "fast SCSI-2" card and put a fast drive on
that controller, with all the slow devices on the Apple controller.

3.  something was wrong with the Quadra's configuration.  Remove all
the inits and check memory settings (disk cache, Photoshop memory
size, ATM cache size, virtual memory settings).

4.  the problem is the SCSI drive configuration.  Photoshop moves
a LOT of data.  Add two fast SCSI-2 NuBus controllers and drives wiht
RAID level 0 software (e.g., 2 Quantum 500MB drives with ATTO
software and Silicon Express controllers).

5.  the Quadra is not really that fast, to get a significant improvement
we would need to switch to MS Windows on a 66mhz 486DX2 EISA system.

The vendors I have spoken with have experience with systems used for
extensive manipulations within Photoshop, and suggest that drive
performance and hardware accelerators work very well in this
situation, but none of them had experience with SCSI-based printers.

I would appreciate advice from someone who has practical experience
with a similar configuration.  In particular, does it make sense that
a basic Quadra would not be faster than a IIsi, and if so, how much of
an improvement is possible?  If we are going to invest money over and
above a basic Quadra (say 840AV with 8M RAM), is it better for this
application to spend money on RAM, a really fast drive such as the
Seagate Barracuda, or RAID 0?

/George White <[e-mail]> Bedford Inst. of Oceanography

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 15:33:36 CDT
From: [e-mail] (Pete Jemian)
Subject: Wildcard rename (R)

In IMv11-160, there was a question from [e-mail] (Mike Basham):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Does anyone know of a utility or technique for renaming a bunch of files in
a Macintosh folder a-la-DOS/UNIX wildcards? Suppose I have a bunch of files
with the names:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Several answers come to mind

1.  The ubiquitous MPW.  Nuff sed.
2.  Alpha v5.31 (higher if you can get it.)
    This includes a shell window that can do this and more.
    Wade through the documentation to understand.
3.  CLIM (Command Line Interpreter for the Macintosh)
    Haven't tried it.  Downloaded it.  Didn't look trivial.  :(
    However, neither did 1 or 2 above.  ;)
    Trashed it because I couldn't see having three of these
    critters hanging around.

Comments:
  #1 you have to commercially license with $$$,
  #2 & #3 request only $$ shareware fees.  (each $ is a digit)
  If you grok the TCL language in Alpha, I suggest getting it.
  It CAN be learned.  After all, Klingon is taught by some school somewheres.
  Alpha is a truly great editor with a neat shell thrown in on the side!
  MPW ain't shabby, either.  I hear you can even compile programs with it! :)

Pete Jemian
Wildcard rename (R)



In IMv11-160, there was a question from [e-mail] (Mike Basham):
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Does anyone know of a utility or technique for renaming a bunch of files in
a Macintosh folder a-la-DOS/UNIX wildcards? Suppose I have a bunch of files
with the names:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Several answers come to mind

1.  The ubiquitous MPW.  Nuff sed.
2.  Alpha v5.31 (higher if you can get it.)
    This includes a shell window that can do this and more.
    Wade through the documentation to understand.
3.  CLIM (Command Line Interpreter for the Macintosh)
    Haven't tried it.  Downloaded it.  Didn't look trivial.  :(
    However, neither did 1 or 2 above.  ;)
    Trashed it because I couldn't see having three of these
    critters hanging around.

Comments:
  #1 you have to commercially license with $$$,
  #2 & #3 request only $$ shareware fees.  (each $ is a digit)
  If you grok the TCL language in Alpha, I suggest getting it.
  It CAN be learned.  After all, Klingon is taught by some school somewheres.
  Alpha is a truly great editor with a neat shell thrown in on the side!
  MPW ain't shabby, either.  I hear you can even compile programs with it! :)

Pete Jemian





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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 20:13:48 CET
From: Andrzej Artymowicz <[e-mail]>

for:    D I G I T A L   A U D I O    C O M M U N I T Y|

Can anyone tell me specification of soft/hardware Centris 660AV/Quadra 840AV
DSP compatibility with availble digital audio hardware/software like:
- Digidesign Audiomedia II,
            Sound Tools II,
         Sound Designer II,
                  DINR etc?
Does any company produce digital input/output (at least SPDIF) card for those
machines?

Why Apple put such nice DSP hardware into so small and not expandable
case (1x7" NuBus slot)? It's unfair to dedicate this Mac only for not advanced
multimedia community. Centris 660AV in 650 case would be much more useful.

I can buy 660AV for built AT&T 3210 DSP, but I'm not sure about any
digital I/O products for 660/840AV and compatibility with existing systems.
This step is very dangerous because I couldn't add "long" NuBus card to 660.

How many CD quality (16 bit, 44100Hz) internal channels can handle AT&T DSP
(55MHz) inside Centris 660AV? How many Quadra 840AV (66MHz DSP)?

Please help me|

If you can, send E-mail directly for me:   [e-mail]

Thanks|

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Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 12:15:26 +1200
From: The Moderators <[e-mail]> (by way of
[e-mail] (Nigel Perry))

>
> In the UseNet Newsgroup comp.sys.mac.system Greg Marriott stated the
> following reasons for removing Omega Sane from System 7.1:
>
> 1) OmegaSANE must be locked in memory (due to the back-patching).  This can
> severely fragment the system heap causing lots of space to be unrecoverable
> for use by applications.

2 & 3 cut...

> The OmegaSANE package is in the Quadra ROMs, so reasons 1 and 2 don't apply
> (unless you move a "damaged" application to a non-Quadra machine after it
> has been modified by SANE).  Reason 3 still applies, but it turns out most
> applications that will even _run_ on a Quadra were developed with later,
> better, development systems that didn't produce the confusing pattern of
> instructions.
>
> Bottom line:  Using OmegaSANE on non-Quadra machines is risky and ill
> advised.
>
Surely locking in the System Heap does not need to cause fragmentation?
Cannot the Omega PACK 4 & 5 be loaded into the heap during boot, moved
out of the way and then locked (many INITs load, move high and lock)?
This may take up a few K of heap, but for the speed gain is probably
worth it.

Maybe a small INIT to load and lock Omega is called for...

Cheers,
--
Dr Nigel Perry, Massey University, NZ. [e-mail]

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Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1993 19:20:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <[e-mail]>

Anyone had a bad experience with a Practical Peripheral modem (14.

Eric H. Durbrow, Ph.D.
Dept of Anthropology
University of Missouri-Columbia          [e-mail]

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